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york city. he got trans-fats banned. calorie counts posted at mcdonald's and other fast food places. now he wants a ban on adding too much salt. do you think you have saved lives? >> absolutely. >> well, joel is a farmer, grows vegetables vegetables vegetables and raise cows, chickens and pigs. joe, assume you want people to buy your beef and pork to be safe. don't we owe him a vote of thanks for saving us? >> no, i would say you're killing me out here. i'm trying to get my stuff to market and this plethora of government regulations is killing our farm and our ability to come to market. >> you're just a greedy businessman and you don't care if people die. let's go through some of the ways that assemblyman ortiz has saved us. the trans-fat ban. >> that's old news. how about you want a tax on junior food. >> well, we have a bill to ensure that we can minimize the carbohydrate in the market and we're giving the consumer chance to choose what they want to consume. >> so good food should cost less, sure gary food more. >> correct. >> is apple jupes junk food? >> i don't believe they are
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